A better perspective I'd say than most of what I'm seeing:
The interviewee's background:
Daniel Levy is President of the U.S./Middle East Project and served as an Israeli peace negotiator at the Oslo-B talks under Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Taba negotiations under Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
Stumbled across it via this tweet which says describing it:
Very telling when an ex-Top Adviser to Israel's Prime Minister is way more sympathetic to Palestinians than a BBC presenter
Definitely still not feeling optimistic.